Monday, November 17, 2025

How Many Are There?

One of the new worries that is going to destroy life for all of us is "mankeeping," a form of emotional labor that a Vice writer thinks is at the forefront of women not wanting to have relationships.  Instapundit linked to David Thompson's discussion, which includes a link to the original article. Thompson has a touch of Wodhusian style to his writing. The in-style, or perhaps the suckered-in crowd, has the topic on every lip, or so it seems.  Yet are they really leaving boyfriends and even husbands over this? Women like to read about such things, but that's hardly the same thing. Isn't this rather a buffet of minor resentments where every woman chooses two or three out of the twenty?

It reminded me immediately of the Groypers, or Christian Nationalists, or whatever they are.  People like to read about this.  They also approach this buffet style.  How many real ones are there?  

Are there more women leaving men over mankeeping, or more Groypers?  Show your work. 

3 comments:

Earl Wajenberg said...

"[Mankeeping] goes beyond remembering birthdays or coordinating social plans. It means being your partner’s one-man support system. Managing his stress."

?? I thought one of the many problems with men was that they didn't seek support and wouldn't open up about their stress and such-like problems.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

Thompson points out exactly this.

bs king said...

I have insomnia so I decided to plug your post in to ChatGPT and asked it to answer your last question literally. It seemed to conflate emotional mankeeping with unequal household labor, which reminded me I didn’t read the article enough to know if that’s fair. But if it is then it’s a major factor in about 25% of divorces. At 600k divorces a year, we’d be looking at 150k, more if we count breakups.

For groypers, it points to Fuentes having 1 million X followers and 500k Rumble followers. Given hangers on, it estimates hard core adherents are probably in the tens of thousands, maybe up to a few hundred thousand if you loosen the definition.

Given that the divorces are a yearly total, it estimates there are probably more women with these issues than Groypers. That was fun.