Steve Hsu had Simone Collins on to talk about IVF, dating as an autistic female, and her pronatalism site. The fun part is that bsking has had it up to here with Collins, with more than one criticism.
LOL, yes, yes I have. I saw someone on Twitter describe her and her husband as the worst of tech: they did something pretty unremarkable (had three children) and immediately started a foundation, raised money, and went on a publicity tour about their brave “new” way of doing things.
I’ll also note she’s 35 and wants to have 4-10 more biological children. Even with IVF I’m curious how that will turn out for them.
If God should grant that wish, it will be sufficient punishment. That’s almost like the Islamic doctrine of having multiple wives. I met a man in Iraq who inquired about asylum just to escape them.
Yes, I recall saying to a woman at work who was asserting with ridiculous confidence that all men had harem fantasies "Well, it depends. Do I have to live in the same house with all these women? Or do they live together and sort it all out and I come over from my house in the evening?"
I was hoping the dating while autistic section might have some useful insights for some people I know, but no. And the IVF section felt a bit creepy--pulling in technicians somehow makes such an intimate process better? Do they want specialists to blow their noses for them too? I skipped the bulk of it. Yes, out society doesn't bother teaching kids courtship roles--denies them instead--and doesn't offer much incentive to start families early.
I kinda fall into the David Foster camp here though the foundation thing is off-putting and planning to have yet more kids after 35 raises questions about her (and her husband's) judgment. (Disclosure - my father was 40 and mother 38 back in the Dark Ages of the 1960s when I was born, and I'm the oldest of three)
something pretty unremarkable (had three children)
I will suggest that's a matter of perspective. Fifty or so years ago (per Pew Research via Googling how many kids do women have on average) it certainly wouldn't have been remarkable since 40% of mothers had *four or more* kids, and the outliers were the mothers who had only one child (around 10%). As of 2014 (and I don't think things have changed much) that has flipped so that the outliers are now mothers with four or more (14%), the percentage of mothers who have only one child has doubled, and a plurality (41%) now have two. Interestingly the percentage who are mothers of three child has stayed the same (25%) but has gone from the low end of clear majority (around 65%) to the low end of a clear minority (around 35%).
LOL, yes, yes I have. I saw someone on Twitter describe her and her husband as the worst of tech: they did something pretty unremarkable (had three children) and immediately started a foundation, raised money, and went on a publicity tour about their brave “new” way of doing things.
ReplyDeleteI’ll also note she’s 35 and wants to have 4-10 more biological children. Even with IVF I’m curious how that will turn out for them.
If God should grant that wish, it will be sufficient punishment. That’s almost like the Islamic doctrine of having multiple wives. I met a man in Iraq who inquired about asylum just to escape them.
ReplyDeleteYes, I recall saying to a woman at work who was asserting with ridiculous confidence that all men had harem fantasies "Well, it depends. Do I have to live in the same house with all these women? Or do they live together and sort it all out and I come over from my house in the evening?"
ReplyDelete"the worst of tech"...what did they do that was so bad?
ReplyDeleteI was hoping the dating while autistic section might have some useful insights for some people I know, but no. And the IVF section felt a bit creepy--pulling in technicians somehow makes such an intimate process better? Do they want specialists to blow their noses for them too? I skipped the bulk of it.
ReplyDeleteYes, out society doesn't bother teaching kids courtship roles--denies them instead--and doesn't offer much incentive to start families early.
I kinda fall into the David Foster camp here though the foundation thing is off-putting and planning to have yet more kids after 35 raises questions about her (and her husband's) judgment. (Disclosure - my father was 40 and mother 38 back in the Dark Ages of the 1960s when I was born, and I'm the oldest of three)
ReplyDeletesomething pretty unremarkable (had three children)
I will suggest that's a matter of perspective. Fifty or so years ago (per Pew Research via Googling how many kids do women have on average) it certainly wouldn't have been remarkable since 40% of mothers had *four or more* kids, and the outliers were the mothers who had only one child (around 10%). As of 2014 (and I don't think things have changed much) that has flipped so that the outliers are now mothers with four or more (14%), the percentage of mothers who have only one child has doubled, and a plurality (41%) now have two.
Interestingly the percentage who are mothers of three child has stayed the same (25%) but has gone from the low end of clear majority (around 65%) to the low end of a clear minority (around 35%).