tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post7673646020685258477..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Title Rescinded: Word of GodAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-5202870501800182362012-03-01T21:10:33.437-05:002012-03-01T21:10:33.437-05:00Hey anonymous, thanks for the insightful explanati...Hey anonymous, thanks for the insightful explanation there. Care to elaborate?<br /><br />DD and clarity - yes I knew those passages But it still isn't tight enough for an "=," to my reading. <i>Logos, </i>which Dave rightly notes is a very large concept in John anyway, is not the root used in any of these passages. I don't see any reason to set that up as the only standard for equivalence, but neither do I automatically disregard that distinction as immaterial. Equal signs in scripture should be a very high bar to reach. If it is a dotted line that we overstep a bit by treating as solid, I don't think that is a great problem. My worry is that the way is quietly blocked, but we are incautious. <i>Words</i> and <i>spoken</i> are large claims, but I don't know if they are gigantic enough for this.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-55673977462678515482012-03-01T13:46:26.833-05:002012-03-01T13:46:26.833-05:00Heck, I grew up in such a tradition. I found mysel...Heck, I grew up in such a tradition. I found myself quietly questioning whether the title <i>Word of God</i> properly applied to the entire Scriptures, or to Jesus himself.<br /><br />This may be blamed on C.S. Lewis. He was capable of discussing Scripture as Literature, while not losing any respect for Scripture as inspired and authoritative. <br /><br />This may have also been tied into my realization that every branch of Christianity has a Tradition Of The Church. This Tradition is <i>de facto</i> on an equal footing with Scripture, even if it is only an interpretative framework.<br /><br />During my childhood, my parents led the family in Bible readings on a regular basis. We started in Genesis, and moved onwards.<br /><br />I learned along the way that certain portions of Scripture had historical flavor, other portions had a historical-events-wrapped-up-in-a-morality-play character. Other books were full of songs, prophecies, and other inspirational material. <br /><br />All of Scripture is powerful and valuable for the believer. But is it the <i>Word Of God</i>, or words of men inspired by God's acts in history?<br /><br />Or is the answer somewhere in between?karrdehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205160745963596856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-44677173006466293892012-03-01T12:12:18.964-05:002012-03-01T12:12:18.964-05:00Here are some references that may change the way y...Here are some references that may change the way you feel about this.<br /><br />Luke 24:44-45, "Now He said to them, 'These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.' Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures." <br /><br /><br />2 Tim. 3:16-17, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."Claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-41402918244223874152012-03-01T09:29:57.371-05:002012-03-01T09:29:57.371-05:00Apparently, AVI has not studied theology.Apparently, AVI has not studied theology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-42228730872980431232012-02-29T08:16:09.552-05:002012-02-29T08:16:09.552-05:00I think it's kind of a transitive property thi...I think it's kind of a transitive property thing. If a=b and b=c then a=c. <br /><br />cf Hebrews 1. In times past God spoke in many ways through the prophets. But NOW he has spoken to us through Jesus. <br /><br />God speaks (give us his Word) through the prophets (writings of Moses onward). Now he speaks through his WORD, Jesus. Both are his Word. <br /><br />The specific "word" isn't used, the term used of Jesus in John 1 is LOGOS, which carries SO much more weight then our idea of what a word is that it is almost not a good translation. It's one of those translations that would need a paragraph to translate if you really wanted to unpack it. <br /><br />So the idea of Bible as Word of God doesn't seem out of line to me. Not any more than "Trinity" does.Dubbahdeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00075702513873912334noreply@blogger.com