tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post7304842486156100482..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Wallis-Soros-OlaskyAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-8272870217355665822010-08-30T21:29:18.986-04:002010-08-30T21:29:18.986-04:00hmmm... it looks like a few of the posts on the bl...hmmm... it looks like a few of the posts on the blog aren't working right now. we've been having some problems with our servers.Timothy McMahan Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14547583193810902446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-56563184641621049532010-08-30T21:18:55.247-04:002010-08-30T21:18:55.247-04:00(I can't seem to see that post. If I go to the...(I can't seem to see that post. If I go to the URL direct, or click "Continue Reading" on the main page, I get a blank page. Source window is also blank.)jaedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328666344764784829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-40078663087730492202010-08-30T21:08:08.441-04:002010-08-30T21:08:08.441-04:00See, that's why I have confidence in Tim. Nic...See, that's why I have confidence in Tim. Nicely said.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-4479164951833594522010-08-30T19:31:15.744-04:002010-08-30T19:31:15.744-04:00Thanks AVI, here is the testimonial I wrote that m...Thanks AVI, here is the testimonial I wrote that my mom sent you the draft of. I think I clarified that sentence in paragraph 9 that you mentioned. http://blog.sojo.net/2010/08/30/why-i%E2%80%99m-at-sojourners/<br />I'm glad that you can simultaneously critique and still appreciate Sojourners/Jim's sincerity and Christian commitment.Timothy McMahan Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14547583193810902446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-7221830198887198082010-08-30T18:24:05.988-04:002010-08-30T18:24:05.988-04:00Not to beat a dead horse too much but this is wher...Not to beat a dead horse too much but this is where I am coming from: relationships between Christians are arguably biblically mandated to be somehow different from regular friendships, there is the essence of fellowship among other things. If you have friends/relatives with whom you have fundamental theological disagreements with, the muddiness comes from, when am I no longer able to have that deeper relationship. I don't know what AVI's situation is (and don't know much about Jim Wallis) but I am certainly at or past that point with my relatives.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05456587175845040114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-51028601223278165192010-08-30T18:12:18.512-04:002010-08-30T18:12:18.512-04:00jaed, my relatives are veering into the heterodox,...jaed, my relatives are veering into the heterodox, not AVI's friends. Maybe we see different shades of meaning in the post due to different life circumstances. <br /><br />I was referring to the ambivalence that happens when someone that we have deep disagreements with is still our friend, it is a muddy situation. I don't think the author would disagree with that.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05456587175845040114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-83382761356542670402010-08-29T22:17:23.624-04:002010-08-29T22:17:23.624-04:00I don't think "veering into the heterodox...I don't think "veering into the heterodox" is exactly the point of the post, Anna. When someone with whom you have profound differences - moral ones, not just differences of opinion - does something that displays generosity or nobility of character, it's good to take special notice of it. It prevents disagreement from starting to curdle into hate. At least it has been so for me.<br /><br />I hadn't heard about this kerfuffle before now, and I'm afraid <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2010/08/wallis_admits_t.html" rel="nofollow">Wallis's words</a> don't make me think better of him than I did. But I'm glad to hear that he is good to your friend Tim, AVI. People are complicated.jaedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328666344764784829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-89660198935455393482010-08-29T18:24:39.675-04:002010-08-29T18:24:39.675-04:00Although I should qualify - my relatives aren'...Although I should qualify - my relatives aren't veering into the lefty social-justice emergent etc camp. So it might be a bit of a different situation.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05456587175845040114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-87813442751531830702010-08-29T18:00:16.242-04:002010-08-29T18:00:16.242-04:00Yes the eternal question about what to do with Chr...Yes the eternal question about what to do with Christian friends & relatives whom we love but are veering ever further into the heterodox. Something I deal with very often myself. At what point do you stop considering them Christians, has been my question throughout. Not to go into too much detail here. <br /><br />My grandmother had a brother who became a Mormon. Although he has been dead for years, there is still a lot of frustration in her voice when she talks about him.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05456587175845040114noreply@blogger.com