tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post4539741788886464898..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Susan In NarniaAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-92145981650461524522019-04-22T00:42:40.928-04:002019-04-22T00:42:40.928-04:00I didn't comment there at the time, but I thin...I didn't comment there at the time, but I think it unlikely Lewis meant to push Susan's story further. I don't see any references to it. However, just for fun...<br /><br />I don't think one could do an addition to Narnia just about her to complete her story. That is a modern sort of novel, not very mythological. However, she could be a secondary character in some other story, perhaps even a passing character who we only recognise as she is going by, but with enough detail to let us know what was up. It would have to be an encouraging outcome. A viewing of Susan that shows a further deterioration into silliness is something he has already covered in some of the characters in <i>The Great Divorce.</i> There would be no need for that story. In someone else's other-world adventure, as you suggest, she might only be an encourager in this world, enough to show she is on the right track. A definitive salvation might not be necessary for the reader - just a sign that things were likely to go well. Or she might even take a role similar to Merlin's in <i>That Hideous Strength,</i> arriving in some great catastrophe in that other world in an adventure that is not hers, but making some great sacrifice there, having some understanding how such things work, world-to-world, and having been fitted for the task by having to go it alone for many years in our world. EVen a sacrifice unto death. A student or other acquaintance of hers, as you suggest, might show signs she guesses at the meaning of. Care would have to be taken to keep her from being <i>Deus ex machina,</i> I think. We might get some of her internal struggle, rather like Jane Studdock's, but that could not sustain a book on its own, without doing some violence to the tone of Narnia.<br /><br />Madeleine L'Engle had crossover characters in her series. I imagine it isn't easy to do. Come to think of it, I wish L'Engle would have inserted Susan in one of her books, giving us the proper update and just passing on. I doubt she would have dared, even if it had occurred to her, unless she was implored to by others who she thought had authority. Christopher Tolkien or some such.<br /><br />Or we could just time-travel, have Lewis read her books, and ask for his permission. That would be simplest.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-44835239263207933592019-04-21T23:17:42.440-04:002019-04-21T23:17:42.440-04:00I had missed the rumor that Lewis was thinking of ...I had missed the rumor that Lewis was thinking of writing a novel following Susan's life. I'd like to have seen how he dealt with that. <br /><br />Susan missed the boat on Narnia: time may have moved differently, but their time is no more.<br /><br />Her road home might be entirely through our world, until of course she reached the End of all worlds. I think he might have had a hard time making this play out satisfactorily. Readers would expect something different.<br /><br />Or she could meet with someone who had traveled to other worlds--perhaps a student of hers--and been given a chance at conversion through an adventure in a different world. <br /><br />A whole new world would have been challenging--he'd have needed a non-overlapping set of mythic creatures, and that world's Aslan counterpart. (A lion we understand; that's an easily understood myth.)<br /><br /><br />When I was 18 I had some trouble getting into That Hideous Strength, but I think I've read it more often than the other two.jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792036361407527304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-63828815609929365882019-04-20T17:02:05.719-04:002019-04-20T17:02:05.719-04:00I often see her as a model, because it's the s...I often see her as a model, because it's the story of her conversion. I've re-read the book many times, and though I'm always troubled by some parts of her treatment, I'm still crazy about the book, and profoundly happy at the end when she finds a way not only to God but also back to her husband in her heart. Her husband's story gets me right in the gut, too, because the atmosphere at N.I.C.E. is so much like some aspects of my old law firm, and because I so thoroughly understand his mania to reach the inner circle at last, and his weak cowardice, and the incredible relief when he finally gains the approval of his own conscience at the risk of his life, a life that doesn't begin in earnest until that moment. That crazy-making insistence that he believe what is so obviously not true, and numb himself to all genuine feelings, also strikes a strong chord with me. I know lots of people prefer the other two books in the trilogy, but I much prefer the third.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-724155052368802682019-04-20T16:01:05.064-04:002019-04-20T16:01:05.064-04:00Yes, Lewis deserves the accusation of sexism beca...Yes, Lewis deserves the accusation of sexism because of his treatment of Jane Studdock far more, I think. He may have accurately captured a type of academic woman of his time - there is rumor he was thinking of two younger women especially - but he should know how readers and authors work, and that she would be taken as a generalisation of all academic women. Even more, he might have foreseen that more-educated women were going to become common and any educated women might identify with Jane somewhat and take offense. He might even have seen that many women in general might identify with her and consider her treated unfairly.<br /><br />Authors have to take care to be explicit that a character is <i>not</i> representative of class or group. Jane is more believable, and valuable, if we see her as something separate.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-62248788671236759982019-04-20T14:51:18.836-04:002019-04-20T14:51:18.836-04:00Lewis is kind of mean to Susan, but you can't ...Lewis is kind of mean to Susan, but you can't accuse him of demanding that she fit herself into a feminine straitjacket. He implies she's all too willing to disappear into one and to forget what was really important. She's all about the nylons and lipstick these days, not so much the babies and the laundry.<br /><br />I was always more uncomfortable with how Lewis treated Jane in "That Hideous Strength," who wants to be valued to the things that make her a thinking person, and is portrayed as clearly in error for ingratitude that everyone around her places so high a value on her youth, beauty, and fresh innocence. She thinks her husband is am awful schmuck and can't imagine how she's supposed to submit to him as a means of reviving her dead marriage. But at least she is expected to show bravery, loyalty, and commitment, not only in standing by her man but in using her gift of clairvoyance to save the day. By the time her husband returns to her he has turned into an adult human being. He's even stopped thinking of her primarily as a silly little piece of decoration. So you can imagine their marriage being reborn, with fertility this time, without her having given up on being a real person.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-82144028473056219152019-04-20T13:08:43.798-04:002019-04-20T13:08:43.798-04:00Yes, I know that Lewis doesn't use the Oxford ...Yes, I know that Lewis doesn't use the Oxford Comma in the title. It still pains me.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.com