tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post385043485235417334..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Celtics EnvyAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-85406626941982070992008-06-20T07:39:00.000-04:002008-06-20T07:39:00.000-04:00Your post swerved on me. I definitely didn't expe...Your post swerved on me. I definitely didn't expect the end connection there.<BR/><BR/>I was in DC a couple of months ago and someone was giving me a hard time about loud obnoxious Red Sox fans who didn't know anything. I merely looked them and said "Um, I've been cheering for the Red Sox since the day I was born. We lost a lot for a long time....actually, I really hate those sorts of fans too." They were stunned as I explained to them that Boston had some hardcore fans, that we all felt very relieved when we won, and the ones who rubbed it in others faces were probably not long term fans...as someone who puts up with that much losing is more likely to react by just saying "oh thank God" than anything else. It was weird how groundbreaking that seemed for them.<BR/><BR/>Which is kind of like how groundbreaking it is for people when I make the point (that I'm fairly sure I swiped from you) that if supposedly educated Europeans hate us for electing George Bush, and the information was well publicized that he didn't win the majority either time, well then, they're either not so very educated or they were trying to hate us anyway, right? <BR/><BR/>It's easy to know how long Boston fans have suffered. To act like we've been insufferable for years (like soooooooooome teams in New York I could name) is willful ignorance. Ditto to thinking that all Americans think <I>anything</I> in unison politically. <BR/><BR/>Good post. I like it.bs kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871717971078952304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-80294677514412957822008-06-20T05:09:00.000-04:002008-06-20T05:09:00.000-04:00It's rather interesting, upon recollecting now, th...It's rather interesting, upon recollecting now, that when the Florida Marlins won the World Series - they were fabulous ... but almost no one cared, and in fact only hoped they could get some of the key players from the mass sell-off afterwards. And when the Rays are on top, it's viewed as Boston and NY not living up to standard. So it's easy to see why the big guys are despised - that when the little guys win, it's merely chalked up us a non-event and aberration nothing more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-36838451780392409372008-06-19T13:09:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:09:00.000-04:00I root for Duke simply because everyone hates them...I root for Duke simply because everyone hates them. I think there are legitimate reasons to hate a team (the Yankees spend more money than any other American sports franchise) and non-legitimate ones (everybody likes them, so I hate them). Duke consistently gets the best players because they're always committed to winning and being one of the best college teams, but someone has to be the bad guy. Ditto Notre Dame. <BR/><BR/>I run into Boston hatred from time to time, but a huge portion of it is just that there are a <I>lot</I> of Red Sox/Celtics/etc. fans out there, and not that many Astros/Rockets/etc. fans. Smaller teams hate the bigger teams, and they hate us more when we win.Ben Wymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491745981357751416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-34787137861821237102008-06-19T06:51:00.000-04:002008-06-19T06:51:00.000-04:00Regarding the arrogance of Boston fans, I read a c...Regarding the arrogance of Boston fans, I read a column by a Philadelphia sportswriter about the annual invasion of the "Bawsten" fans into the city of brotherly love. He used the word obnoxious. I went to Baltimore to see the Red Sox in May. It was an enjoyable trip. However, I did try to step back and observe the Boston fans who descended on Baltimore those two days in May and I have to agree. I wore my 10 year old classic Red Sox hat (dark blue with a red "B"). The average "Sawx" fan in the crowd had their Ortiz or Ramirez shirt and acted like they were in their own home ballpark. I cheered for the Red Sox respectfully and let the Orioles fans do the cheering when their team did well, but in general, I would concur that the "road warrior" Red Sox fans who invade the visiting ball parks are obnoxious. The reputation is well earned and will only go away when the teams are no longer at the top of the heap. <BR/><BR/>Congrats, Celtics. As the AVI and I are the same age and grew up when Celtics championships were commonplace and news only on the sports pages, this one was sweet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-64991148123963181142008-06-18T21:40:00.000-04:002008-06-18T21:40:00.000-04:00Duke would be an excellent comparison.Duke would be an excellent comparison.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-21418364778422097762008-06-18T16:48:00.000-04:002008-06-18T16:48:00.000-04:00AVI:Basketball is my least favorite professional g...AVI:<BR/><BR/>Basketball is my least favorite professional game, and I'm no longer a New England sports fan (for many of the reasons you mention), but I watched and enjoyed last night. I was rooting for the Celtics: for KG, for Red, and for years of bad ping-pongs. Congrats to you and New England.<BR/><BR/>I never would have made the connection between Boston and Blue-State fans your post elucidates, but on reflection, I think it apt. How can we encourage the same self-awareness among Duke fans?@nooil4pacifistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.com