tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post7143676352237236614..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: AsylumAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-48867912966451095272018-12-14T22:41:47.928-05:002018-12-14T22:41:47.928-05:00They had at their disposal some gold and valuable ...They had at their disposal some gold and valuable spices, IIRC.jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792036361407527304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-70990627013415607632018-12-10T00:24:40.851-05:002018-12-10T00:24:40.851-05:00People using that descriptor of them are usually r...People using that descriptor of them are usually referring to the flight into Egypt. That's closer, but as above, I still don't think it quite qualifies. It is also not a given that they were poor or without resources.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-65888371898787942982018-12-09T23:50:05.837-05:002018-12-09T23:50:05.837-05:00Joseph and Mary were not refugees. They had to ret...Joseph and Mary were not refugees. They had to return to the city of Joseph's family to be counted in the census by order of the government.Bill S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06097208179674592483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-6018541107663371902018-12-08T14:01:59.080-05:002018-12-08T14:01:59.080-05:00No apology needed, James. I don't take an int...No apology needed, James. I don't take an interesting link as a thorough endorsement.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-52157933548058513142018-12-06T12:40:07.601-05:002018-12-06T12:40:07.601-05:00No, those people KNOW what they're doing.No, those people KNOW what they're doing.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-30553130427625691812018-12-06T11:40:48.836-05:002018-12-06T11:40:48.836-05:00"I was homeless, and it was totally OK that y..."I was homeless, and it was totally OK that you didn't take Me into your home; what chaps Me is that you didn't force your neighbor to take Me in."Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-21989532947923339772018-12-06T09:39:38.835-05:002018-12-06T09:39:38.835-05:00My apologies--I forgot how much Royko relied on st...My apologies--I forgot how much Royko relied on stereotypes of psychiatric service. The point was that good intentions don't always give benign results. Victor Davis Hanson has some things to say about California that suggest that the influx hasn't always had the desired effects.jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792036361407527304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-82140108083505688422018-12-06T07:58:03.667-05:002018-12-06T07:58:03.667-05:00@ james. Royko tries to capture the idea that &qu...@ james. Royko tries to capture the idea that "We treat poor people really badly," and I suppose that has some justice to it. But it's just one false equivalence after another otherwise. <br /><br />@ Christopher B, I think you are correct this would not be persuasive. I was mostly writing it for myself, I suppose, to express some part of why this "Jesus was a refugee" idea is inaccurate. That the holy family was in danger and had to move should inspire us to be quick to charity and slow to judgement, granted. I don't see how it goes much farther. Trying to cram political ideas on the back of that donkey isn't justified.<br /><br />I am not sure all of the benign group qualifies for your explanation about immigration policy, though. There are a lot of people who don't think much more deeply than "This is sad. We should do what these nice people who talk about sadness tell us is right."Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-90517657416797090712018-12-06T07:00:15.358-05:002018-12-06T07:00:15.358-05:00I think you're giving an econ response to a cu...I think you're giving an econ response to a culture argument, and it won't be persuasive. The people posting the Holy Family=Refugees meme fall into two groups. The more begnin group simply believes that American immigration policy should be copied from the base of the Statue of Liberty, full stop. The other group believes themselves to be surrounded by a growing number of political enemies, and thinks the refugees will be their allies. Neither will be impressed by discussing how Mary, Jesus, and Joseph fit into modern categories of displaced persons.Christopher Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396671757183163171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-62683679046619711382018-12-05T22:50:00.885-05:002018-12-05T22:50:00.885-05:00Mike Royko's Mary and Joe suggests an alternat...Mike Royko's Mary and Joe suggests an alternative result: <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-05-04-9705040051-story.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-05-04-9705040051-story.html</a><br /><br />But seriously, the closest analog I can think of in the ancient world for being allowed to enter the USA, is becoming part of a wealthy extended family.jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792036361407527304noreply@blogger.com