tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post504007578817900621..comments2024-03-27T03:19:11.216-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Education CredentialsAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-24361439400140295472011-07-11T09:04:04.675-04:002011-07-11T09:04:04.675-04:00"I absorbed the view, from reading and from f..."I absorbed the view, from reading and from family, that college was only indirectly about preparing for work - it was about becoming a complete person, a man of many parts, thoroughly grounded in Western Intellectual Tradition."<br /><br />I can remember when I thought that was true. It survived my first tour of college but not my second. I think it's recoverable, but not for much longer.ErisGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383064735664269791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-16313897371254762772011-07-10T13:22:16.827-04:002011-07-10T13:22:16.827-04:00When all the pretty words about what a fine and no...When all the pretty words about what a fine and noble thing the education institutions are doing are stripped away, and one looks at it as a commercial enterprise - an agricultural biz with a crop of students to harvest every year, for example, or perhaps an academic version of Planet Fitness - I don't think the behavior of the company looks much different. It is a government-subsidised industry and they are skilled at keeping that money flowing.<br /><br />I don't doubt that most participants intend to be doing something more elevated, think of themselves that way, and even try to provide something they see as valuable for their students. But that would also be true of exercise coaches, farmers, landscapers, or ski-repair shops. We can talk ourselves into lots of things.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-82250171703909849322011-07-10T10:53:13.789-04:002011-07-10T10:53:13.789-04:00It's funny....securities regulations prohibit ...It's funny....securities regulations prohibit people from putting their money in certain kinds of investment (limited partnerships for drilling, for example) unless they are "Qualified Investors," meeting certain income/asset tests which indicate that they can afford to lose the money (and are also supposed to magically indicate that they have a serious understanding of investing)....yet college administrators, for-profit AND "nonprofit," sell people who are most definitely not Qualified Investors on incurring lifetimes of debt so that they (the administrators) can continue their affluent lifestyles.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-62080015881881309922011-07-10T10:04:29.677-04:002011-07-10T10:04:29.677-04:00And have you noticed all the masters and doctorate...And have you noticed all the masters and doctorate programs being advertised on tv, internet, other media. They also seem to be aimed at women, minorities, others.<br /><br />It is (my take entirely) about money. With lots of Federal money out there in grants, financial aid, etc, many are jumping into various schools. The "students" maybe get a benefit at the end, and the "institution" make good money up front. Not sure how many of these are really useful. All this from a former janitor that went back to school for a BA in Hist, MS in Ed, MA in Mngmt and MA in Hist. I taught at a community college for 14 yrs and, frankly, while some are "college ready" most do not finish. Many just take the money and run. I taught five sections and most started with 30 students. Most would finish with between 12 and 8 students. None had reading skills, much in the way of self-discipline nor any real understanding nore desire to do the work. All this, despite, mega formal and informal (no cost) tutor programs and availability of instructors on campus. The dumbing down of America...and we're paying for it to happen. Nuts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-67221593712781667782011-07-10T09:47:33.892-04:002011-07-10T09:47:33.892-04:00Over the last several decades, college has been so...Over the last several decades, college has been sold *neither* on the grounds that "you need to go to college because knowledge is a Good Thing in itself" NOR on the grounds that "you need to learn these specific forms of knowlege to perform in your chosen career" BUT RATHER as "you need a DEGREE to get a good job"....it's all about the piece of paper.<br /><br />I saw a comment by a Computer Science professor that most of his students had no interest in learning the material, just in passing the tests and getting their degree. So even in a field as obviously directly practical and career-related at CS, learning is being devalued.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-6563123588413087662011-07-09T22:44:08.618-04:002011-07-09T22:44:08.618-04:00Excellent. Thank you.Excellent. Thank you.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-70594125817583399602011-07-09T21:28:01.623-04:002011-07-09T21:28:01.623-04:00the Atlantic article.<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/06/in-the-basement-of-the-ivory-tower/6810/" rel="nofollow"> the Atlantic article</a>.jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792036361407527304noreply@blogger.com