tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post114503010123499032..comments2019-09-17T22:07:58.418-04:00Comments on Assistant Village Idiot: Faux Logic, Part VAssistant Village Idiothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145646234305638822006-04-21T15:03:00.000-04:002006-04-21T15:03:00.000-04:00> Proof is seldom available. Even in mathematics, ...> Proof is seldom available. Even in mathematics, the usual gold standard in everyday conversation, proofs are contextual. Change the base, change the surface, and your elegant proof evaporates.<BR/><BR/>Actually, math is independent of what you speak. At the heart of all math, however, are basic, given "conjectures", much like those inherent in high school geometry. Most are pretty inarguable, but, as in geometry there are usually some which are... "flexible"... we presume them but there is, in fact, no reason for that --- The Parallel Postulate is one such, and ties into the fact that all the angles of a triangle add up to 180, which leads to plane geometry. <BR/><BR/>Altering that fact, "all the angles add up to more than 180", leads to spherical geometry, which is useful in real-world celestial navigation. In it a "plane" is a sphere, not a flat surface we think of. <BR/><BR/>Flipping it the other way, "all angles add up to less than 180", leads to hyperbolic geometry, which has some advanced applications in modern physics. In this, a "plane" is sort of saddle shaped.<BR/><BR/>More interestingly, one encounters something called Godel's (that's a German "o" with two dots) Incompleteness Theorem, which says that <B>it is impossible to come up with a system of axioms which do not allow for contradictions</B> (such as the variations on the Parallel Postulate), to wit: "Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?"OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15962820001381465964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145389781800254242006-04-18T15:49:00.000-04:002006-04-18T15:49:00.000-04:00One can prove beyond doubt THAT God exists...but t...One can prove beyond doubt THAT God exists...but this won't change someone whose lifestyle is based on the presumption that a deity's existence doesn't MATTER. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, some people are so invested in their ideology that proofs or 'criteria of credibility' don't matter so much as the continued health of the 'dream'... <BR/><BR/>For example, proofs abound that this chap, Osama Bin Laden is real, is currently at large, and is the head of an international terror organization responsible for several major attacks including 9-11-01. <BR/><BR/>But still there are those who insist he's 'really' an actor playing a part for the CIA and some cabal of BUSHITLER brownshirts who are the 'real enemies'. He can come out and say on live videotape that he's his own guy and threaten the West with utter destruction and these people will wink and nod and say "if this video helps Bush that PROVES OBL actually works for Bush..."<BR/><BR/>So, since Tojo's attack on Pearl Harbor helped FDR win in 1944, it's a lock that Japan was actually a soulless puppet of the evil US military-industrial complex all along? <BR/><BR/>There is no blindness like that among those who will not see...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145314280952924592006-04-17T18:51:00.000-04:002006-04-17T18:51:00.000-04:00Ha Ha...this 'could be' a conversation of a few la...Ha Ha...this 'could be' a conversation of a few lawyers sitting up at the bar!<BR/><BR/>*Just walking by on my way to the lady's room*LiquidLifeHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13802288870750666828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145228995495908332006-04-16T19:09:00.000-04:002006-04-16T19:09:00.000-04:00Proof's great when you can get it.Proof's great when you can get it.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145222759747764092006-04-16T17:25:00.000-04:002006-04-16T17:25:00.000-04:00Therefore the superior form of reasoning is always...Therefore the superior form of reasoning is always based upon deduction, upon asking what Must be True instead of asking "What does the evidence purport to support as true".<BR/><BR/>AN advantage of studying philosophy.Ymarsakarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042359012095620504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145222649192869522006-04-16T17:24:00.000-04:002006-04-16T17:24:00.000-04:00Someone needs to clean up this infestation of "ste...Someone needs to clean up this infestation of "steves". There are way too many of them on blogger. I've seen 5, count them 5, on neo's comments section. Not at once, but in serial.<BR/><BR/>To get to the point, logic is either inductive or deductive. Since proof and evidence is part of induction, deduction is still independent of the contamination of good, bad, nonexistent evidence.Ymarsakarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042359012095620504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145159103477736262006-04-15T23:45:00.000-04:002006-04-15T23:45:00.000-04:00AVI, I've told you a million times not to exaggera...AVI, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!<BR/><BR/>Did Abraham Lincoln exist?<BR/><BR/>Isn't postmodernism wonderful?<BR/><BR/>Is that Gagdad Bob's Petey?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307073872613257287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19305198.post-1145067872850861292006-04-14T22:24:00.000-04:002006-04-14T22:24:00.000-04:00I'm impressed. You have just proven with no evide...I'm impressed. You have just proven with no evidence that no evidence is really required to prove your point.Peteynoreply@blogger.com